Comments on: Arizona Fly Fishing: The Salt River https://azwanderings.com/arizona-fly-fishing-the-salt-river/ ...fishing, hunting, and roaming the Southwest Wed, 06 Jun 2018 18:10:46 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: azwanderings https://azwanderings.com/arizona-fly-fishing-the-salt-river/#comment-246705 Thu, 12 Feb 2015 03:49:54 +0000 http://azwanderings.com/?p=3049#comment-246705 In reply to Dzi? Hadadolghaash.

You make a lot of good points. Thanks for the comment.

Ben

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By: Dzi? Hadadolghaash https://azwanderings.com/arizona-fly-fishing-the-salt-river/#comment-246589 Wed, 11 Feb 2015 06:17:27 +0000 http://azwanderings.com/?p=3049#comment-246589 The problem is that the people who run SRP don’t care anything about creating a restoration project, especially if it means them losing money. One only has to look at the SRP Navajo Generating Station on the Navajo Nation to see that. And until we stop getting more immigrants here from the rest of the US, and get an influx of people who have no connection to this land, the river will always be trashed.

I do like the idea though of stocking Native trout species in the river, but again when AZGFD has 85% of their fish hatcheries dedicated to non-Native fish species that won’t occur either.

One thing I’ve been thinking of that could help to get rid of the tubers would be to tell the major cities of Maricopa county to invest in some kind of indoor slow moving water tubing tracks. I’ve seen this at new apartment complex at ASU, so I’m sure it’s possible. This could keep the tubers in the city and away from trashing the river, while providing a more safe experience for them that also helps conserve water by recycling it through the course. And if money is an issue here, I’m sure someone could forego the creation of another golf course, and instead build an indoor water tubing attraction.

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By: Kyle H. https://azwanderings.com/arizona-fly-fishing-the-salt-river/#comment-8341 Sat, 07 Jan 2012 16:24:39 +0000 http://azwanderings.com/?p=3049#comment-8341 In reply to azwanderings.

I agree with proper monitoring and with a little education of the fishing community is could work. There already isn’t enough monitoring at the urban ponds though. I see guys with 3 lines in the water all the time and how many of them don’t have licenses, who knows? I would love to see it happen but like you, I doubt it will.

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By: azwanderings https://azwanderings.com/arizona-fly-fishing-the-salt-river/#comment-8332 Sat, 07 Jan 2012 04:26:56 +0000 http://azwanderings.com/?p=3049#comment-8332 In reply to Kyle H..

Kyle,

Thanks for the thoughtful comment. I definitely see your point. More people brings more problems. I am a little bit of an optimist and believe that if it was done right with proper monitoring and support from the fishing community that it could work over time. Probably never will happen, but it’s nice to dream…

Ben

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By: Kyle H. https://azwanderings.com/arizona-fly-fishing-the-salt-river/#comment-8331 Sat, 07 Jan 2012 04:15:45 +0000 http://azwanderings.com/?p=3049#comment-8331 I think turning the Salt into a Blue Ribbon fishery would be great for us fishermen but as it has been stated once the word is out that something close to town is a guaranteed spot to catch nice trout all year it would end rather quickly. Sometimes it is hard to pull a fish out of one of the urban ponds after only a week from the stocking day. So while it would be great I don’t see it being feasible once the word gets out. And I agree with Ty that if it were to get popular then it would just bring more garbage from careless people. Personally right now I enjoy the Salt River the way it is. They are still able to stock trout all year round and while I still have yet to catch one, I completely enjoy my mornings out there. The scenery is some of the best around and when I do catch one it will be a lot more rewarding because I had to work hard at it and not just cast a lure in an urban pond 10 times. Just some of my views as another local fisherman. Wish I would have seen this article sooner.

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By: azwanderings https://azwanderings.com/arizona-fly-fishing-the-salt-river/#comment-1081 Wed, 09 Mar 2011 05:20:51 +0000 http://azwanderings.com/?p=3049#comment-1081 Good stuff Ty. You’ve definitely have put some thought into it and I think you’re probably right. In the end it probably would be more trouble than it’s worth and it ultimately would get abused. It’s too bad and maybe someday things will be different. Thanks for the thoughts. I appreciate your point of view.

Ben

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By: Ty V. https://azwanderings.com/arizona-fly-fishing-the-salt-river/#comment-1072 Wed, 09 Mar 2011 01:58:54 +0000 http://azwanderings.com/?p=3049#comment-1072 I live in the Phoenix area and I too love the idea of having a blue ribbon trout fishery so close to home. It is a beautiful area and I frequently enjoyed a quick stop to cast to rising trout on my way home from work last winter. However, I do think there are too many factors working against this portion of the Salt River for it to ever become such a destination.

All of the reasons you mentioned above are undoubtedly valid. Here is one reason that I think it is unlikely to ever become a blue ribbon fishery- it is too close to Phoenix. You and I, and I’m sure all of your readers, have nothing but the best of intentions and good habits when it comes to conservation of the areas and waters we fish. I don’t think thats true of all anglers. Unfortunately, I think that if the Salt ever started to hold a decent population of trout, urban fishermen and snow birds would hear the news and take over in no time at all. Human population, picnics and river side parties would increase to levels higher than they are now, along with resulting trash and rubbish, etc. This would ultimately still send us to the high country in search of a little solitude anyway. The river would then also have to be heavily regulated and policed in order to even have a chance at creating a sustainable environment for trout.

I don’t mean to sound like such a pessimist and this may be a bit of an exaggeration. I do have that same dream of having a great fishery so close to home. However, taking into consideration all of the reasons above, I just don’t think the conditions are right for this portion of the Salt River.

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By: azwanderings https://azwanderings.com/arizona-fly-fishing-the-salt-river/#comment-912 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 01:55:12 +0000 http://azwanderings.com/?p=3049#comment-912 RD – I hope it changes too. It would be nice to have another dynamic trout fishery so close to the city.

WFF – We do have some great local organizations and TU chapters that do some great work up north. It would be interesting to hear what they have to say about a project like this. That is a great idea to get them involved.

TR- You’re probably right about the money. In a state where we are just about broke, I don’t see too many people scrambling to spend extra money. And you’re also right in the fact that if there was money to be made, they probably already would have switched things up.

At the end of the day, this is a rant that kind of took on a life of it’s own. It would be interesting to hear what other locals have to say.

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By: troutrageous1 https://azwanderings.com/arizona-fly-fishing-the-salt-river/#comment-906 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:52:21 +0000 http://azwanderings.com/?p=3049#comment-906 I’m no biologist either, but a very thought provoking post. The cynic in me thinks if there was serious money to be had (your point #2 FOR) it would already be done. Perhaps #2 AGAINST is much larger than #2 FOR. But then again, I’m not familiar with the local politics. That said, always support conservation efforts, would love to read what other locals have to say.

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By: winonaflyfactory https://azwanderings.com/arizona-fly-fishing-the-salt-river/#comment-902 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:08:29 +0000 http://azwanderings.com/?p=3049#comment-902 Glad to see someone sharing their thoughts on perhaps a sensitive subject. I’m also partial and I’d rather see trout swimming than beer cans, especially if it is supposed to hold trout. That would be hard for me, driving that far to show up only to be dissapointed. Do you have a TU chapter close by that might be able to write grants/petition for some of the changes you’d like to see. Tubers with beer… got no problems with people trying to enjoy things. Got issues with disrespect for nature.

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